EPW031096 ENGLAND (1929). Parked aircraft near Kisby's Farm including G-AACV, G-AACL, G-AAAA, G-AAHI, G-AAGE, G-EBJT and G-EBSA, Ecchinswell, 1929. This image has been produced from a damaged negative.

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EPW031096
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EPW031095
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EPW031094
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EPW031089
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EPW031093
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Pennawd [EPW031096] Parked aircraft near Kisby's Farm including G-AACV, G-AACL, G-AAAA, G-AAHI, G-AAGE, G-EBJT and G-EBSA, Ecchinswell, 1929. This image has been produced from a damaged negative.
Cyfeirnod EPW031096
Dyddiad October-1929
Dolen
Enw lle ECCHINSWELL
Plwyf ECCHINSWELL, SYDMONTON AND BISHOPS GREEN
Ardal
Gwlad ENGLAND
Dwyreiniad / Gogleddiad 450815, 160053
Hydred / Lledred -1.2704579626105, 51.336791572684
Cyfeirnod Grid Cenedlaethol SU508601

Pinnau

Manor House 1

Rebecca
Wednesday 9th of January 2013 03:54:33 PM

Class31
Tuesday 4th of June 2013 09:42:58 AM

Rebecca
Wednesday 9th of January 2013 03:46:04 PM
What's this high-wing monoplane? It's very elegant!

Katy Whitaker
Friday 2nd of November 2012 08:05:53 PM
It must surely be the one and only DH.80, G-AAHZ, forerunner of the DH.80A Puss Moth. Perhaps they had all come to see this new DH monoplane!

Billiken
Saturday 3rd of November 2012 05:25:27 PM
G-AACL. DH60G Moth by de Havilland. Construction number 887. First owner A S Butler/Stag Lane. Then G D Mallinson/Sherburn. Aircraft completed in October 1928. Lost over English Channel on 1 March 1931

MB
Thursday 18th of October 2012 11:43:52 PM
G-EBSA it appears. If so a De Havilland DH60X Moth with a construction number 414 and build date 28 June 1927. First owner wasx Major G C Maxwell, then G Linnell, followed by others. Aircraft crashed at Crockernwell on 8 April 1931

MB
Thursday 18th of October 2012 11:36:41 PM
G - AAGE. DE Havilland DH60M Moth. Construction number 1332

MB
Thursday 18th of October 2012 11:26:12 PM
Judging from the pronounced dihedral at the wing roots, to allow for the wings to be folded for storage in a garage, or towing down a road; and the rounded wingtips, it looks very much like a De Havilland DH80 Puss Moth.

calladhor
Thursday 30th of May 2013 03:05:35 PM

Cyfraniadau Grŵp

A combination of aviation industry leaders, fashionable people and "Moth'ers" calling in on Alan Muntz! It's great to have locations for these images at last.



Yours, Katy

Britain from Above Cataloguing Team Leader

Katy Whitaker
Tuesday 2nd of July 2013 11:58:49 AM
Ecchinswell, near Newbury.

Tony D
Tuesday 4th of June 2013 01:07:18 AM
Just out of interest - the Prince of Wales bought a Gipsy Moth in October 1929 ... this wouldn't be a meet involving him, would it?



http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1935/1935%20-%200986.html

Rebecca
Sunday 13th of January 2013 12:03:41 AM
The P o W did visit various small airfields around this time in his aircraft with his personal pilot. But maybe this was an advance party to assess this new field for him. It has clearly been mown and prepared as a landing strip, but there is no windsock anywhere to be seen, and no ground markings or facilities for aircraft, and no obvious access to the manor farm area. The tall trees at the narrow end would have eventually been lopped perhaps. He may have been intending to visit the distant large hall.

Billiken
Sunday 13th of January 2013 12:03:41 AM
No joy. Oh well, google 'hatfield aerodrome from the air' and you'll get the full link!

Rebecca
Thursday 10th of January 2013 11:12:42 AM
For some reason the comments field has truncated the web address I gave in full. Try again here.



http://www.dhaetsa.org.uk/dhaets/documents/101457_hatfield_aerodrome_from_the_air_v2.pdf



Rebecca
Thursday 10th of January 2013 11:11:11 AM
I'm convinced this is not taken round Hatfield. If you look at this aerial photo of Hatfield in the early 1930s (scroll to just over half way down the page http://www.n5490.org/Pilots/Bill%20Grace/Bill%20Grace.html) and others taken in the early 1930s and 1947 published here (http://www.dhaetsa.org.uk/dhaets/documents/101457_hatfield_aerodrome_from_the_air_v2.pdf) you can see the surviving old non airfield fields round Hatfield are fairly large and rectilinear. If you compare with the reversed version of EPW031089 you can see the fields in the latter are generally much smaller and irregular in shape. The early 1930s photo of Hatfield in the PDF shows Harpsfield Hall and Sinclair's Farm. The mature trees round the buildings on that photo don't match anything on the set here. Also the entire landscape in the mystery set looks very rural, whereas in the early 1930s Hatfield photos there is clearly a lot of housing in the area, with well-established gardens ie not recently built in the few years between the October 1929 mystery set and the early 1930s Hatfield photos.

Rebecca
Thursday 10th of January 2013 11:10:17 AM
Hi all,



This image is a puzzler. We can document the histories of the aircraft in shot by virtue of their registration details. This shows that some of them were owned, on and off, by VIPs of the aviation world, including some people involved with the board of Aerofilms Ltd. But we have no location or information about the event. It could even be a private meeting of bigwigs landed near to the country house they were visiting...any suggestions for the location or event will be gratefully received! It may well turn out to be a local club or owners get-together, I'd love to know.



Yours, Katy

Britain from Above Cataloguing Team Leader

Katy Whitaker
Thursday 10th of January 2013 09:40:03 AM
Given this is October 1929 and that most of the planes are registered to the de Haviland company and it's directors or other big names from Stag Lane. I wonder if this is not a scouting party for the move to Hatfield and maybe the large house in the background and on 86a, 87a and 88 is Harpsfield Hall - Unfortunately I can't find an old map where the field layout might match and I guess they would have looked at other places

Dave Brunt
Tuesday 27th of November 2012 09:51:23 PM
sorry should have said "large house in the background on 93"

Dave Brunt
Tuesday 27th of November 2012 09:53:24 PM
Just a thought - Dave Brunt says that most of the planes are registered to the de Haviland company and its directors or other big names from Stag Lane. As these people were no doubt big cheeses, there is a chance that they might have written and published memoirs/diaries etc - is it worth finding the names of the owners and seeing if there are either published books of their reminiscences, or diaries etc held in various record offices or company archives, de Haviland or others? I am sure a meet like this would have been noted somewhere ...

Rebecca
Thursday 10th of January 2013 09:40:03 AM
One of a series of 10 photos, EPW031086A, EPW031087A, EPW031088-EPW031091 and EPW031093-EPW031096.



Manor House 2 appears to be the focus as it is featured in three closeups (EPW031086A, EPW031087A, EPW031088) so this may have been where the air meet was based.

Rebecca
Wednesday 9th of January 2013 04:23:29 PM
G-AAHI appears to be a de Havilland Gypsy Moth built in 1929 - so new when this photograph was taken. It apparently still performs aerobatic displays. At least it did recently - at Belvoir Castle on 21 August 2011.

[Source: www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=G-AAHI]

MB
Tuesday 30th of October 2012 10:49:21 AM
Just ahead of it is another Gypsy Moth, I think G-AAAA, which was the very first aircraft on the Second Permanent Register.

Billiken
Tuesday 30th of October 2012 10:49:21 AM
A gathering of De Havilland Moths and other small aircraft. Two of these were lost in 1931 - one crashed at Crockernwell and the other over the English Channel

MB
Thursday 18th of October 2012 11:48:16 PM